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Æthelstan Archives's avatar

I completely agree on the reasoning behind tariffs I know it’s about ending globalism but I just can’t shake the feeling that this is a ploy to discredit the right wing maybe I’m just too sceptical of trump

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Æthelstan Archives's avatar

Guess time will tell keep up the good work!

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Æthelstan Archives's avatar

I must say though this was a great article just think in these 90 days free trade deals will come in and the neoliberal order will be stronger than ever I hope I’m proven wrong in my trust of trump, guess we will see in 90 days

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

Early days still. Let’s see what happens

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

I hope I’m not the naive one here 😂

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Æthelstan Archives's avatar

It isn’t looking good for your take on things

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

Not right now...lol

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Æthelstan Archives's avatar

Think my distrust in the system comes through the fact that the English have voted for change and nothing ever happens, trump is very much in this vein of talking a good talk but never delivering. The situation in Iran as well as the flip flop of trumps narrative with tarrifs has decimated MAGAs reputation and the right wing as a whole, splinter groups are forming breaking up the power they once held together it’s not looking bright ahead and the black pill has never been so sweet 😂😂

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

Not great. But I’m still not black pilling personally

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zlatan's avatar

Good stuff

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

Thankyou Zlatan

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Butt Actually's avatar

Japan did that and they are basically a giant rock in the middle of the ocean!

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OGRE's avatar

I agree. The outcome, should nothing be done, would be FAR worse than anything we try at this point.

It will get much better once most of Congress has been replaced with people who will actually do the right thing. Right now we're stuck with a bunch of crooks and creeps.

If voting is actually made legitimate again, I think a lot of those incumbents will be out of office sooner rather than later.

Whatever happens, we're all in this together. And do think we'll come out much better off in the end.

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

It would be MUUUCH worse.

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Nick Kryptr's avatar

Weirdly, no one from Netflix has yet bought the rights to my screenplay, "The Trouble With Triffins."

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A C Molino's avatar

>>*This kind of economic behavior is first and foremost cultural. If you hollow out your cultural and ethnic makeup for the sake of GDP, you’re killing that which in the first place made free market economics possible.*

So true. **Roger Scruton** made the point that pretty much all discussion about economics is based on a caricature of the human being. He also argued that the single-minded goal of free trade was both harmful and ultimately futile. Indulge me a little, I'm going to quote him longer than is appropriate given this medium...

'In the case of the WTO, the advancement of free trade [is its one legislative goal] and [it has] no duty to reconcile that goal with all the other goods and needs of a real human society. That is why its rulings are so dangerous... It is only free-market dogma that persuades people that free trade is a real possibility in the modern world. All trade is massively subsidized, usually in the interests of the stronger party... and all trade is or ought to be subject to prohibition and restriction in the interest not merely of local conditions but also moral, religious and national imperatives. If free trade means the importation of pornography into Islamic countries, who can defend it?...If it means allowing anonymous shareholders who neither know nor care about Hungary to own and control the Budapest water supply, is it not the most dangerous of long-term policies? The fact is that free trade is neither possible nor desirable. It is for each nation to establish the regulatory regime that will maximize trade with its neighbors, while protecting the local customs, moral ideals, and privileged relations on which the national identity depends.'

From *A Political Philosophy*, Bloomsbury, 2006. (Essay: *Conserving Nations*)

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

I’ll need to read more from Roger Scruton

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Jonboy's avatar

Herr Svetski

Clear

Concise

Calm

Convincing

Patience “Grasshopper”

Tusen Takk

Jon

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

🤝

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Joyce Brand's avatar

I'm so glad you didn't say that other nations have been ripping us off and reciprocal tariffs will make them pay their fair share, like most of the pro-tariff people are saying (including Trump's press secretary). I've been focused on the fact that tariffs are taxes, and the Americans who buy cheap foreign goods because they can't afford high quality American goods are the ones who will suffer, not to mention American businesses that depend on foreign inputs that are no longer available in the US.

I'm so grateful that the socialists didn't win the election, and I believe that Donald Trump is sincere in wanting to drain the swamp and make America great again. No, he is neither evil nor stupid (which you might argue the current Democrat leadership is both). What I see as the danger with Trump is that he thinks he has all the answers. I'm happy about most of the things he has been doing, but it seems like with his tariffs, he is willing to risk crashing the economy because he thinks America is strong enough to take the hit.

I appreciate your take on it because it gives me a different perspective. Maybe he will be able to walk that line between saving America and damaging the economy irreparably. There is nothing we can do except wait and see, but your analysis makes me feel a bit more optimistic.

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

I’m glad it brings you some comfort and a level of optimism. That’s the goal here. I really do believe America has what it takes to weather this necessary storm.

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Steven C.'s avatar

I recently spent three weeks in Japan, and was blown away by how much better it is then my country.

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

It's incredible what can be done when the focus is on your people and culture, instead of on importing cheap plastic shit from China.

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z bat's avatar

One of the most interesting pages in The Bushido of Bitcoin showed feudal Japan's societal pyramid, from emperor down to merchants. Merchants were looked down upon because they'd essentially "sell their mother to make a buck," lacking honor by the culture's standards. Modern ruling elites, including Trump, are a classic embodiment of this merchant class: risen through unscrupulous means, devoid of any spiritual foundation or connection to the sacred.

I agree that diversity and inclusion differ fundamentally (e.g., Japan for Japanese culture, Italy for its cuisine/arts), the U.S. isn't a culture but a fascinating liberty experiment. Objectively successful in 200 years, yet it was built on indigenous bones. The North American white man began with genocide and ethnic cleansing. They "won" the kinetic battle but lost their soul in the process.

Since its founding, America has been perpetually at war: first with itself (Civil War), then the world from WW1 onward. Post-WW2, the bloodlust escalated, and all wars were unjustified (and financed through money printing), purely for expanding the empire through subjugation under false pretenses. Today, this casual attitude towards genocide and ethnic cleansing continues via their proxy state, Israel. It's wild that funding and arming a live-streamed slaughter wasn't even an election issue.

To me, this reveals a rotten society long separated from the sacred. An empire built on ruins returns to ruins. Trump, Biden, et al. deal only with surface symptoms. They lack the humility to address root rot, be it spiritual or economic. Merchant-class rulers can't fix what their system requires to survive: endless plunder and violence.

Tariffs or not, the Empire has no soul.

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Rocktrout's avatar

Well said.

It's absolutely necessary to upset the neoliberal cargo cult and all of it's attendant tomfuckery.

What Japan faced in 1988, didn't the West actually face that in 2008? Then made the decision to flood us with the third world instead of what Japan did?

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Aleksandar Svetski's avatar

Yep - you're 100% right. And now the problem is much bigger, but all the soy boys can't stomach the dip.

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